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kommenttia Paypal changes: charge for gift payment &fee for other currency

  • Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
    NemsEngelAceSasu2 vuotta sitten#32945958Yeah because the new changes start for US ppl at 10th May. For me in Germany it was around 25th May. This change will affect every Paypal User worldwide. Just the date when it starts is diffrent.
    The message about the changes was sent at the beginning of the year. Just no one bothered to read it.


    Ahh i see :/ sucks hard.. guess its 25th for me too (netherlands) good to know
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    Chloe-tsundere2 vuotta sitten#32945775He only paid a small conversion fee that was it.
    Hope its only USA.. didnt get a message about policy changes


    Yeah because the new changes start for US ppl at 10th May. For me in Germany it was around 25th May. This change will affect every Paypal User worldwide. Just the date when it starts is diffrent.

    The message about the changes was sent at the beginning of the year. Just no one bothered to read it.
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    Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
    NemsEngelAceSasu2 vuotta sitten#32945679The fee has to be paid by the sender. So the buyer. And for most ppl, USA I guess, it'll only start at May 10th.

    He only paid a small conversion fee that was it.
    Hope its only USA.. didnt get a message about policy changes
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    Chloe-tsundere2 vuotta sitten#32945458Maybe i was just in time? Cause i had no fees whatsoever when someone send me payment by gift. I do get that paypal does this as ofc this means less income for them if ppl pay by gift to avoid the fees. But it sure is a hassle for most ppl.
    Guess i wont accept gift payments and just sell more locally :) (its just a huge amount to add on prices and lots of ppl complain qbout the seller charging the fees)


    The fee has to be paid by the sender. So the buyer. And for most ppl, USA I guess, it'll only start at May 10th.
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    Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
    Maybe i was just in time? Cause i had no fees whatsoever when someone send me payment by gift. I do get that paypal does this as ofc this means less income for them if ppl pay by gift to avoid the fees. But it sure is a hassle for most ppl.

    Guess i wont accept gift payments and just sell more locally :) (its just a huge amount to add on prices and lots of ppl complain qbout the seller charging the fees)
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    Regarding the currency conversion part, I don't think that anything changes (I might be wrong though, or wrong about specific countries). If I'm not mistaken, PayPal policies aren't exactly the same for each country, and what you're linking in your post is a mix of policies/policy updates for the US and the Philippines. As others have said, PayPal already charges currency conversion fees, and all that the US policy change page says is that they'll make clarifications on that front in the new policy, not that they're introducing additional conversion fees. My own country's policy update page does not mention anything regarding additional conversion fees either. (I've compared several countries' policy change page, and they do not have the same wording or structure. The new flat fee on Friends/Family payments will be introduced though, albeit on different dates.)

    Now, either PayPal hasn't been charging people in the Philippines with conversion fees, or that entire paragraph just wasn't in the Philippine policy before.
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    Big companies always abuse their power <_<
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    NemsEngelAceSasu2 vuotta sitten#32108779I'll have to say,Group Orders don't count as goods payment though. I've had to deal with Paypal freezing my account. And after proving it's for Group Order's they agreed that this is fine as gift payment.

    That's all well and fair that PayPal agrees that a group order is fair use, it still just leaves you in the category of everybody paying for the misdeeds of a few. To be clear, I wasn't trying to point a finger at anyone or any group in particular. I was more trying to generalize how as more and more take advantage of something, it becomes just a matter of time until a change will be made. Number crunchers love coming up with theoretical lost profits and closing loopholes...
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    fgrthiuy2 vuotta sitten#32108334This doesn't really surprise me at all, it really reminds me of how eBay policies have changed over the years due to abuse of the system.
    When I first started using those auctions they would only charge fees on the purchase value of an item, not the shipping or extras. Of course, they were also flooded with $0.99 items listed with super inflated shipping costs. Not only did this cheat eBay out of their agreed upon share in a sale, but it commonly tricked a lot of less attentive customers, leading to common complaints about overcharging for shipping.
    This time it's the same thing, people join PayPal and agree to their terms and fees, then take advantage of a loophole to cheat out of the deal. You see it all over the place, here included when it comes to user-user transactions, where all sorts of people hope to save their extra couple dollars by paying for a sale as a gift.
    That's all it takes, a large enough of a minority cheating the system, and the system will adapt to survive.


    I'll have to say,Group Orders don't count as goods payment though. I've had to deal with Paypal freezing my account. And after proving it's for Group Order's they agreed that this is fine as gift payment.
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    This doesn't really surprise me at all, it really reminds me of how eBay policies have changed over the years due to abuse of the system.

    When I first started using those auctions they would only charge fees on the purchase value of an item, not the shipping or extras. Of course, they were also flooded with $0.99 items listed with super inflated shipping costs. Not only did this cheat eBay out of their agreed upon share in a sale, but it commonly tricked a lot of less attentive customers, leading to common complaints about overcharging for shipping.

    This time it's the same thing, people join PayPal and agree to their terms and fees, then take advantage of a loophole to cheat out of the deal. You see it all over the place, here included when it comes to user-user transactions, where all sorts of people hope to save their extra couple dollars by paying for a sale as a gift.

    That's all it takes, a large enough of a minority cheating the system, and the system will adapt to survive.
    2 vuotta sitten
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