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Official vs Bootleg: Play Arts Kai Xenomorph SpitterOfficial vs Bootleg: Play Arts Kai Xenomorph SpitterMisc

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tharglettharglet3 kuukautta sitten
Seeing as Alien Day is just around the corner, I've decided to group together my blogs connected to the franchise. This blog is part 1 of 3 of this series.

This bootleg figure was one that intrigued me by the pictures - the title of this one said "action figure" and "model toy", with the images looking not very articulated. So with the curiosity of what exactly I was going to get, I shoved this one in my basket.

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Pricing
A bit like comparing apples and oranges here, but I'll include the prices anyway.

MSRP (without tax): ¥8,800
Price I paid for the official (inc shipping): £59.99
Price I paid for the bootleg (inc shipping): $18.83 (£14.68)

For the official, I bought it in the aftermarket (from a UK retailer - Zavvi)

Now, let's get the less intriguing bit out of the way...

Base
https://i.ibb.co/gw3Bch5/stands-side.jpg
Here we can see the the bootleg base is a very close replica of the official one, only in black plastic. There is one major flaw with the bootleg though - and that's the part with the hexagonal holes is made from a flexible plastic. If the stand is in use, this is fine, but trying to pull the damn thing apart to adjust it is a serious pain.

Grabber:
https://i.ibb.co/mzjVj5F/stand-top.jpg
Not much to say here. Works, does the job.

Base's base:
https://i.ibb.co/1J9mqnC/bases-bottom.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/8YMmsg5/bases-underneath.jpg
The official one (if you look verryyy closely) has a Play Arts Kai logo on the top at the front, and has a copyright statement underneath the support stand. Bootleg is flat black.

Figure
OK! Now for the exciting bit! Let's see our friends side-by-side!
https://i.ibb.co/FHxYjxp/pak-both.jpg
Here's me (poorly) trying to get them in roughly the same pose. Indeed the bootleggers have made a static statue based on an articulated figure!

Side of the head:
https://i.ibb.co/2SzPJR8/head-bubbles.jpg
Let's start by comparing one of the most iconic parts of this figure's design - the yellow sacs on the side of its head, presumably storing up acid to spit. The official has some texture behind the transparent plastic, whilst the bootleg seemingly has nothing and a more translucent plastic instead. Definitely preferring the look of the official here. We can also see how the light shines off the head of the official, but not so much on the bootleg - the bootleg has a much more matte finish throughout.
With the paint, the bootleg is sporting a much brighter crest, and lacks the green colouration underneath his head, next to the backmost sac.

Top of the head:
https://i.ibb.co/ZHxTbMk/head-top.jpg
Whilst the texturing has been replicated on the back of the alien's head, the paint and spikes leave something to be desired. With the paint, we can see it is much too contrasting and isn't blended as neatly as the official. The spikes have also been blunted and not painted properly, plus we have some line defects in the moulding (mostly to the left of the spikes). A lot of the edges/ridges on the official have been highlighted with the blue colour, but if we look to the back of his head, we'll see where the bootleg has missed these off. This is pretty much a constant through this figure.

Mouth:
https://i.ibb.co/7y5t2wY/gnashers.jpg
Looking at the figure's head is definitely where the lack of shiny finish definitely shows. Again, the blue shading lacks the subtlety of the original, but the teeth paint is OK. Not amazing, but decent enough. The protrusions from the sides of his head have lost some of the moulding definition, but are actually pointed.
And now for one thing the bootleg mouth can't do:
https://i.ibb.co/kGh1spr/official-mouth-articulated.jpg
Pfft, what's an Alien figure when it can't extend its inner mouth?! Major negative points for the bootleg :P.

Underside of head:
https://i.ibb.co/kH7NqV2/under-head.jpg
Bit hard to get the same angle, when you can't articulate one of the figures...
No paint detail down here on the bootleg, though the official paintwork isn't much to write home about. The details on the bootleg are a bit less defined here, but isn't massively noticeable unless you have them side by side like this.

Back 'spikes':
https://i.ibb.co/D93XsSz/back-spikes-side.jpg
The paint is roughly applied here on the bootleg - a quick go-over with a brush it seems. The official has some subtle additions with the blue paint, but nothing that really stands out. Interestingly, the official has a decent amount of blue on the back but the bootleggers have opted to ignore this and just leave it black.

Now for the official does what the bootleg don't.
Here we have the stuck-together cluster of the bootleg's back spikes:
https://i.ibb.co/2NHrt64/bootleg-back-spines.jpg
And the articulatedness of the official:
https://i.ibb.co/yVhY4Qq/official-back-spikes-articluated.jpg
The bootleg wouldn't be so bad around here if they actually posed the back spikes in a pleasing arrangement, instead of letting them get all squished up and calling it a day.

Front:
https://i.ibb.co/RD5K79w/fronts.jpg
Apparently I didn't do any proper close-ups of their chests and arms, so here I'll talk about them. The chest paint is actually decent on the bootleg - it lacks some of the fine blue shading, but the yellow is decently done, even if it is a bit brighter than the official. The sculpting seems to have been replicated OK, and this is probably the part that has been done the best, compared to the original.
The posing of the arms is decent enough, but the head being in that odd angle I'm not so fond of.

Leg:
https://i.ibb.co/7R92C0t/leg.jpg
Yeah, can tell this is one of the first set of photoshoots... Again, we have the overly bright blue paint detail on the knee spikes. The joints have been decently removed, though he does have some cankle going on. I don't like the stance of the legs on the bootleg though - he feels far too upright for an alien. I think he'd look far better if he was crouching slightly, instead of looking a bit like he's peeking over the edge of a cubicle wall after hearing his name.

Foot:
https://i.ibb.co/xqg2XFj/feet.jpg
More heavyhandedness with the blue paint. With the official, we have silver toenails and the bootleg's are simply blobbed-on white. Much prefer the paint detailing on the official.

Now for the tail. When I first opened the box for this figure, it was broken into two, as the plastic is kinda brittle. Here is a picture with the repair highlighted:
https://i.ibb.co/JcrTyzW/tail-break.jpg
It wasn't had to repair, but annoying. With the tail being a thin part, it's not terribly surprising it snapped in transit, especially with not being packaged properly.

Full tail:
https://i.ibb.co/55QcWfS/tail-full.jpg
The official is on a wire, so bends freely. The bootleg is stuck in the pose you're given. Unless you want to botch repairing it. You can use the bootleg's to balance the figure without the stand, as pictured. With the bootleg, they've highlighted the outer edges, which isn't at all present on the official.

Tail base:
https://i.ibb.co/nwWRZvF/tail-base-closeup.jpg
Here we can see the official is attached on a large ball joint. The bootleg one is a large peg, and simply slots in. Assembly wasn't the smoothest thing, and I seem to recall heating the peg hole to make it go in for the first time. Fits in OK, once it is in there.

Tip of the tail:
https://i.ibb.co/B29TVCx/tail-tip.jpg
Here we see the bootleg's tail is very much stunted at the bottom, though I think this happened in transit. Battle damage. Again, what's with the weird paint highlights?
The official tail tip also has an articulation feature that the bootleg doesn't have:
https://i.ibb.co/kHffbb4/tail-articulated.jpg
So the official can sideswipe things if you want him too :).

Finally, some photos of things you can do with the official, that the bootleg very much won't do:
https://i.ibb.co/GvXKkYX/crouching-alien.jpg

Hewwo!:
https://i.ibb.co/bQkJ7Ww/bum-peek.jpg

Conclusion
With the total and utter lack of articulation, there's no mixing this bootleg up with the official. I don't think this bootleg is a very good figure at all, with the poor posing choices. They could've made some better articulation choices before "freezing" it in place, especially with the back spikes melded into pretty much a singular blob. Even if someone wanted a statue of this figure, I wouldn't recommend this bootleg to them.
Having a black PAK stand is kind of neat, but the poor plastic choice does spoil it somewhat - especially as some PAKs can be a right pain to pose and can often result in altering the stand a couple of times to get it just right.
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tharglet3 kuukautta sitten#77771914Funny you should mention this one - she's in an upcoming blog. Didn't realise she had variants though... I got one when the bootlegs first started kicking around... before the official was even released. Was going to do her as a one-off some time ago, but things happened, and I never did... so she gets to be part of this series.

I'm curious to which of her versions you have. :) I would almost get N E C K , just for the joke value.
3 kuukautta sitten
Maakie3 kuukautta sitten#77771709I had to grab a picture of my most favorite N E C K


Funny you should mention this one - she's in an upcoming blog. Didn't realise she had variants though... I got one when the bootlegs first started kicking around... before the official was even released. Was going to do her as a one-off some time ago, but things happened, and I never did... so she gets to be part of this series.
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tharglet3 kuukautta sitten#77754046I already own Isolation (but not completed it...) so couldn't really take advantage of cheap Alien.
Yeah, necks on articulated bootlegs can be quite bad... and this one has giraffe neck in full force XD. Usually comes from the articulated neck piece extending into the head and lower neck on official figures so you don't get gaps, and then the bootleggers use the wrong joints which means the neck is too much on show. Or in this case... all on show as there are no joints to hold it in the right place. Oops!


I'm a couple of hours in now. Surprisingly the game makes me very tired to play, I think because it's so dark? The references to the movie, the sounds and the Alien herself are awesome though!

I had to grab a picture of my most favorite N E C K

https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2018/04/23/1967252.jpeg

This bootleg is a beauty in general, because there are so much variations on it.

https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2018/05/31/1992312.jpeg

Would you rather have seductive Shiro?

https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2019/09/12/2297137.jpeg

Or long face Shiro?

Every bootleg seller has a different one, enjoy the roulette. xD
3 kuukautta sitten
Maakie3 kuukautta sitten#77753982Interesting to see another Alien review from you! :D I celebrated Alien day by picking up Alien Isolation for $2. :3
At first I thought 'hey the bootleg doesn't seem that bad except for the blue paint', but then I read 'static statue' and had to double check the picture LOL. Also the N E C K of the bootleg, damn!


I already own Isolation (but not completed it...) so couldn't really take advantage of cheap Alien.

Yeah, necks on articulated bootlegs can be quite bad... and this one has giraffe neck in full force XD. Usually comes from the articulated neck piece extending into the head and lower neck on official figures so you don't get gaps, and then the bootleggers use the wrong joints which means the neck is too much on show. Or in this case... all on show as there are no joints to hold it in the right place. Oops!
3 kuukautta sitten
Interesting to see another Alien review from you! :D I celebrated Alien day by picking up Alien Isolation for $2. :3

At first I thought 'hey the bootleg doesn't seem that bad except for the blue paint', but then I read 'static statue' and had to double check the picture LOL. Also the N E C K of the bootleg, damn!
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dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77666375There was actually a bootleg on eBay that I was considering getting for two reasons: 1) as a experiment to see the quality or lack thereof, and 2) the authentic simply costs too much relative to its intrinsic value (one of those figures that is older and in limited supply).
Yeah, can be tempting if an official figure isn't readily available. Have had that temptation before.

dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77666375
But, when I read all the caveats that they had regarding the figure that they can't even guarantee the colors in the photos that they post in the ad, it seemed very foolish to me because if they can't even guarantee what the product will look like who knows if what you get is actually worth displaying.

As there's no QC to really speak of on bootlegs, they do vary slightly between each other. Though I think it's mostly to kind of hoodwink buyers into thinking they have the right thing, by saying the product won't quite match the official photos they're trying to sell the product with.

dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77666375It makes me wonder if deception/lack of knowledgeable buyers are the only way for these bootleggers to stay in business because not even the bootleggers themselves have confidence in their own products. Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration because I'm lumping all bootleggers together but still it mostly fits.
Whilst people unaware of what bootlegging is probably forms a good chunk of their market, there's another chunk who simply can't afford the official thing (usually from countries with lower average wages). And then there are those who want figures, know they're buying knockoffs but don't care as they don't want to spend big money on official figures and don't care to.

Saying a figure will turn out different isn't really exclusive to the bootlegging market - sites selling official figures will often have a note that says the photos are of the prototype, as things do change from the one-off to mass-production. Good companies have little to nothing change, others can be markedly different.
3 kuukautta sitten
I see. Thanks for the responses. Yes, I see a lot of bootlegs on eBay and Amazon, and they usually have more in the descriptions.

There was actually a bootleg on eBay that I was considering getting for two reasons: 1) as a experiment to see the quality or lack thereof, and 2) the authentic simply costs too much relative to its intrinsic value (one of those figures that is older and in limited supply). But, when I read all the caveats that they had regarding the figure that they can't even guarantee the colors in the photos that they post in the ad, it seemed very foolish to me because if they can't even guarantee what the product will look like who knows if what you get is actually worth displaying. It makes me wonder if deception/lack of knowledgeable buyers are the only way for these bootleggers to stay in business because not even the bootleggers themselves have confidence in their own products. Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration because I'm lumping all bootleggers together but still it mostly fits.
3 kuukautta sitten
dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77662939Nice write up. You may want to add the MFC link. I think this is the item ITEM #165526

See the related item link in the sidebar! Or the bottom of the page if you're on mobile. For my blogs, I'll link any relevant figures to the blog.


dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77662939
Do you end up buying these things online? If so, I'm curious whether the descriptions of the bootleg version offer any disclaimers regarding color/quality/articulation. I've seen some ads where they are very up-front that it is a "China" version of the figure. And, they sometimes say that they can't guarantee that the coloring in the photos they post will match the figure. In particular, I'm curious whether the photos for the bootleg in the advertisement showed the light blue highlighting that is all over the bootleg figure because the blue highlighting that they did seems strange to say the least.


Yes, I buy these online. I don't have any figure shops that near to me (legit or non-legit), so it would be hard to obtain them otherwise. The stores that sell bootlegs here will also charge ripoff prices for them (close or same as the official item).
The listing didn't have much text to it at all - just a title "Crazy Toys Aliens Colonial Marines PVC Alien Action Figure Collectible Model Toy", and the "description" was pictures of the actual bootleg. Here's one of the pictures:
https://i.ibb.co/rFCjymR/Crazy-Toys-Aliens-Colonial-Marines-PVC-Alien-Action-Figure-Collectible-Model-Toy.jpg
So as you can see, you can see the dippy paint job. The site I usually buy my bootlegs from usually has photos of the bootleg product, but usually a hand-picked sample that isn't quite as bad as what you may get.
The description disclaimers that you talk about are mostly seen on eBay, other sites don't tend to feature that so much.

dtindcarea3 kuukautta sitten#77662939
Also, did they mention anything about (lack of) articulation in the ad? It matters because I'd really like to know whether these bootleggers are in business simply to copy figures (to deceive) or to produce similar figures on the cheap (a somewhat more respectable business practice). It matters because if the bootlegger's goal is just to produce a similar but not a copy figure, then I don't think I would assume that every feature has to be identical.

No, the titles usually end up keyword-stuffed, and I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of the sellers couldn't translate the words from English to Chinese. They just know what people search for, and put words in the title so people will stumble across it.
From the site I buy from, there is usually no mention of the manufacturer. You also have to search by character name if you want something specific, as that's usually the only thing that survives the bootleg titling process - they don't want to stray tooo close to copyrighted terms. eBay is a bit more blatant, because they can be and probably need to be to get the customers.
Bootlegger's goal is usually to make something as similar as possible as cheap as possible. Those goals do conflict, so you tend to get a lot of compromises on an articulated figure - but I found it funny they just chose to completely forgo the articulation entirely. The articulation on the official is a bit finnicky to get it to stand/pose, so with cheaper joints, it probably was a no-go and they went "fuck it". Or at least that's my guess. Could be the factory that decided to bootleg it didn't usually do articulated figures but happened to end up with it anyway and modded it to this end. Or any other reason.
3 kuukautta sitten
Nice write up. You may want to add the MFC link. I think this is the item ITEM #165526

Do you end up buying these things online? If so, I'm curious whether the descriptions of the bootleg version offer any disclaimers regarding color/quality/articulation. I've seen some ads where they are very up-front that it is a "China" version of the figure. And, they sometimes say that they can't guarantee that the coloring in the photos they post will match the figure. In particular, I'm curious whether the photos for the bootleg in the advertisement showed the light blue highlighting that is all over the bootleg figure because the blue highlighting that they did seems strange to say the least.

Also, did they mention anything about (lack of) articulation in the ad? It matters because I'd really like to know whether these bootleggers are in business simply to copy figures (to deceive) or to produce similar figures on the cheap (a somewhat more respectable business practice). It matters because if the bootlegger's goal is just to produce a similar but not a copy figure, then I don't think I would assume that every feature has to be identical.
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