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Figure companies you want to see fail.Figure companies you want to see fail.Ask MFC

TaralenTaralen7 kuukautta sitten
Clarifying Edit:This is NOT an article promoting people losing their jobs. I feel people are assuming that, and while yes losing jobs can be bad, please be mindful that bad business practices are unjust and scumfucky not only for the customers but employees as well.

I will also say maybe fail is a strong word, but fail can mean many things. Failure in profits. Failure to hold up to a standard. Failure to produce what's advertised. Failure to even advertise accurately. Etc. etc.

Basically anything to possibly prompt a company to either get good or go broke.
End of Edit

Are there any companies out there you actually want to see fail for whatever reason?
Maybe their quality control or bad business practices are so obscene that the only solution for them is for them to go bankrupt, get liquidated, or (hopefully) learn from their mistakes and actually make a change (fat chance compared to the prior two options lol).

In my opinion, FotS/Insight/B'Full (and all their other names) is one such company I want to see fail in some form or another. Maybe not bankruptcy, but judging by how lazy their products are on top of bad, prize figure quality for premium pricing and piss poor packaging, I think they really need an arrow to the knee to get their shit together.

User photos that show what I mean:
https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2019/08/26/2287119.jpeg
https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2019/06/11/2233249.jpeg
https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2020/01/16/2367542.jpeg
https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2019/12/26/2354169.jpeg


Until mistakes are learned from, this company doesn't deserve the money despite how cute, interesting, or unique some of their sculpts are! >_>
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denpaloli6 kuukautta sitten#75993289funko pops need to die.
i cannot stand hearing about a new anime store in town that has "anime figures" in stock, checking it out, and then seeing half of the entire place is dedicated to those nightmarishly priced wastes of space.


Agreed, there have only been a few select Pop figs I enjoy seeing, but I cannot bring myself to ever buy one except for this Funjo Pop Pikachu which is not like the normal pops that people think of (Item #804808). They are hypernormalized as great figures, but they are just mass produced crude looking creation. If they had different faces and poses I would support them more.
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Kotobukiya. I want to see them lose the ability to get licenses which allows them to exclusively make a figure of a character from popular franchises, only to ruin them with their shoddy quality (they're 5+ years behind in quality) and small scale. Kakegurui's Yumeko and AL's Taihou are case in point.

Someone else should've had the right to sculpt their figure...preferably a company that doesn't shy away from 1/6 or bigger scale. If Koto didn't exist then that would surely happen because Koto can outweigh/outbid other figure companies due to the fact that people keep feeding Koto money (and have been doing that since the beginning of time itself). 1/8 and 1/7 are the 'normie' scales and since Koto panders to that massive group, they are guaranteed to make these tiny scale meh quality figures every dang time. At least Alter compensates for this by having a high quality standard, though even Alter's quality is dropping lately.
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billowsandsmoke3 kuukautta sitten#78326658Even if stuff is made in China, manufacturers still have to find people who can paint/assemble this stuff well--otherwise they have QC issues and lose money. A lower profit margin would also be a reason why companies base their run numbers so closely on pre-orders?

Unfortunately I don't know how much the workers in China earn. I also got no clue wehter you really need sort of expert painters for figures, or if any toy painting company can do it as long as there is a set quality standard and control. I saw several times already people claiming quality figures came from the same assembly lines as prize figures. But again it might be a rumor. I also always thought their production numbers close to the pre-order count were a method of artificially raising the value of their product. Like when there is not enough for everyone to go around, and when people panic at the thought of not getting a figure (I'm so guilty of this!) you suddenly turn a piece of painted plastic into a valuable object of desire.

billowsandsmoke3 kuukautta sitten#78326658
And yeah, prices are going up (I complain plenty about it). In the past ten years, like you said, I definitely think part of it was due to an increase in quality though--ten years ago more figures kind of looked like toys, and now they most certainly don't. But there's been a very sudden increase in the past two/three years, and I think that's related to how the anime market in general has expanded [...] the point is that it's not such a niche thing anymore, and so in the same way that handmade purses and crystal dinnerware are can have a higher profit margin (i.e. be overly expensive) because there's a market for that stuff, I imagine the same is starting to become the case for figures as well?


This is a good point. I always thought we were mostly paying for this increase in quality. Like 5 years back hair were mostly a sculpted front section, a few markings for where the hair end and the rest of the head was flat. Now they are mostly doing it all the way, not quite like on those masterpiece Marvel statues, but surely on a high level. Your argument about the increase of demand in the anime sector makes a lot of sense to me. If now larger profit margins are possible it would explain why we have so many new companies trying to enter the market. Maybe figures once were not too profitable unless sold in high numbers (the owner numbers for older Kotobukiya, GSC and so on on MFC are often especially high in comparison to new pieces - but there might be other reasons for this as well). Anime in Germany is still in a developing phase but has increased a lot with the rise of the internet. In the early 2k years one was still not really able to watch most shows, they weren't broadcasted anywhere and hard copies only sold on DvD event markets. Streaming changes things slowly but surely to more acceptance at least for younger people (younger than me xP).

Anyway, figure makers seemed to do alright then, and they are probably doing even better now so we need not worry about them disappearing I suppose. It would be somewhat nice to see B'Full do a Griffon crash landing though... which is right back on topic. xD

billowsandsmoke3 kuukautta sitten#78326658
Though in hindsight, I'm not sure how much my original comment applies to FOTS. On one hand, I imagine very little of their production is done by hand. Most of their stuff is almost certainly 3D printed in color, so there isn't even much to paint[...]
But I just don't understand how their business model works? PO numbers must be insanely low since a lot of people won't buy from them, and so many retailers won't even carry their stuff to begin with. [...] how much business can you have when your stuff consistently breaks and comes out not looking like the prototype? Those seem to me like the two most basic things you need to have on lock as a figure manufacturer?


I don't understand this either. I am a very patient collector and gave them plenty of time to improve, since we've seen in the past with enough time companies can go from zero to hero (QuesQ for example) but for B'Full's PVC-L figures there is no progress to be found. It has to be incredibly cost efficient to 3d print and not care about quality control in the slightest so maybe even the tiniest production runs generate profit somehow.

What's definitely not the case is a lack of knowledge on their part. They know how to make normal quality PVC figures. That's the really annoying part! Pulchra may not be creating masterpieces but it's good enough in most cases. But it takes a really long time for Pulchra figures to become reality where as their PVC-L crap often releases three months after the initial announcement. Maybe that gives us an idea on how low cost this method may really be?
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Figureditout3 kuukautta sitten#78273065I'm curious to know how the profit in figure making can be considered low? I mean figures have basically more than doubled their standard price within the last ten years. Inflation over ten years however is around 20%. As I see things, figures are one of the most expensive non-mechanical miniatures you can buy. And they use inexpensive materials compared with other collectibles let's say plates, statues, knifes whatever you can collect. Just stamps are really cheap to fabricate I guess. xD (oh shit this ended up being long, sorry haha~)

I'm mostly parroting what I've heard from folks who are a bit more marketing savvy than me, but from what I understand, it's tied to the fact that most of the production process is done by hand? Because PVC might be cheap, but I don't imagine the man-hours are. Even if stuff is made in China, manufacturers still have to find people who can paint/assemble this stuff well--otherwise they have QC issues and lose money. A lower profit margin would also be a reason why companies base their run numbers so closely on pre-orders? (Legitimate question there--I'm sure there are other reasons, and idk if/where that would rank among them.)

And yeah, prices are going up (I complain plenty about it). In the past ten years, like you said, I definitely think part of it was due to an increase in quality though--ten years ago more figures kind of looked like toys, and now they most certainly don't. But there's been a very sudden increase in the past two/three years, and I think that's related to how the anime market in general has expanded (rather than a quality increase). Just for example, I remember when Your Name came out, there was one small theater in the city that did maybe(?) two showings--and it was a big deal that they had picked it up at all. Fast forward to the past year or so, when Weathering with You had a bunch of showings at both the major theaters downtown, and I've been able to see the Violet Evergarden special, three showings of Promare, several Ghibli films, and even the series premiere of Ancient Magus Bride in big theaters. Anyway, the point is that it's not such a niche thing anymore, and so in the same way that handmade purses and crystal dinnerware are can have a higher profit margin (i.e. be overly expensive) because there's a market for that stuff, I imagine the same is starting to become the case for figures as well? (But again, that doesn't mean I like it or think it should be happening.)

Though in hindsight, I'm not sure how much my original comment applies to FOTS. On one hand, I imagine very little of their production is done by hand. Most of their stuff is almost certainly 3D printed in color, so there isn't even much to paint--like on Rikka, bits like the flower stems are just printed in that green plastic, and the details on the neckline that were painted in the prototype just...aren't. (Thank you for the photos/mini-review, by the way.) Plus, they save money by not putting any effort into the boxes or packaging. So that would mean an extremely high profit margin.

But I just don't understand how their business model works? PO numbers must be insanely low since a lot of people won't buy from them, and so many retailers won't even carry their stuff to begin with. I know there are people who have a "get the glue ready" mentality, and they can get some customers through having exclusive licenses (i.e. Dragon Maid) but how lucrative is that? I get that there might be a customer base that we're not seeing, but really, how much business can you have when your stuff consistently breaks and comes out not looking like the prototype? Those seem to me like the two most basic things you need to have on lock as a figure manufacturer?
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billowsandsmoke7 kuukautta sitten#75967114 Between the profit margin already being so low for figures, and the fact that so many people refuse to buy from them...

I'm curious to know how the profit in figure making can be considered low? I mean figures have basically more than doubled their standard price within the last ten years. Inflation over ten years however is around 20%. As I see things, figures are one of the most expensive non-mechanical miniatures you can buy. And they use inexpensive materials compared with other collectibles let's say plates, statues, knifes whatever you can collect. Just stamps are really cheap to fabricate I guess. xD
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Taralen Elf Hoarder
Akira6 kuukautta sitten#75993980I prefer to not be negative and instead of wishing ill on a company i rather remain hopeful maybe one day they wont suck anymore. Obviously, in cases like some B-something companies (Bellfine has made a few good figures but there is a branch of them that has all the horrid, 3D printed, prize figure looking-ass figures) is better to be safe than sorry once you see the ugly.

I'm like this with almost every other company EXCEPT Fots/B'full/Insight/etc. They had time to improve and haven't.
6 kuukautta sitten
I prefer to not be negative and instead of wishing ill on a company i rather remain hopeful maybe one day they wont suck anymore. Obviously, in cases like some B-something companies (Bellfine has made a few good figures but there is a branch of them that has all the horrid, 3D printed, prize figure looking-ass figures) is better to be safe than sorry once you see the ugly.
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gwendal738-27 kuukautta sitten#75966393HOW CAN I UPVOTE THIS 9000 TIMESYou need to upvote it OVER 9000...





And then use Kamehameha lol
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denpaloli otaku keyboard warrior
funko pops need to die.

i cannot stand hearing about a new anime store in town that has "anime figures" in stock, checking it out, and then seeing half of the entire place is dedicated to those nightmarishly priced wastes of space.
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fots needs to fix their crap before i buy any figures directly from them. -_- based on these pictures, i'm super disappointed. what kind of quality control is this!?
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Second hand waifus deserve a second chance at laifu!

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